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Old 12-10-2013, 06:46 PM
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Alright so i plan on building a desktop for iracing and for some other games. Iracing will probably be the game with the highest hardware requirements. Other than that I'll probably watch alot of movies off my hard drive. Also planning for the consumer rift but i don't think that will change anything.

This will be my first build ever but i don't think im in over my head, that being said ive only just starting to read up on it. Memory express seems like a good local place to pick up everything.

Looking at there configuration page confuses me though, there are so many options for anything and everything. If anyone can give me a rundown of some minimum requirements or a good starting point example it would be much appreciated.

Total budget should be capped at 1500$, unless there is a big increase in what I get for my money or if something is necissary.
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:49 PM
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From the iracing forum on building and buying a computer


1. High speed, multi-core CPU (Quad core or higher, at 2.5 ghz+ should be the goal. Less processor will equal less performance)

2. Sufficient, recent model video card (1GB+ of video memory, NVidia 260 or above such as GTX 6XX/7XX Series, ATI/AMD 6000/7000 and R9 Series or above for ideal graphics performance.) Again, less video card will equal less performance.

3. Motherboard – You want a motherboard that is reliable, has the features you think you will use.

4. Memory – 4GB or more. The average today seems to be 6GB of DDR3 240-Pin 1600mhz. There are various sizes one can choose from, and I will explain in greater detail later on below.

5. Hard drive space - SSD vs. Conventional HDD will also be discussed later.

6. Power supply/PSU – The heartbeat of your computer, probably the single most important piece of equipment. You do NOT want to skimp on this!

7. Computer Case – You want good airflow, more air = better cooling = longer life & better performance.

8. Software – Windows 7 64bit

The only two components from the list above that will not affect performance, are the case & the PSU.

The next step is figuring out what components go together. A lot of PC builders/vendors claim that not all hardware goes together, so you have to be careful, etc etc. That is true, but not with every piece of the computer like they would like you to think.
The only pieces of hardware that absolutely must go with one another are:

1. CPU

2. Motherboard (CPU Socket to be exact).

That is it, items like the video card, power supply, case, hard drives etc, will work with any hardware combination. One exception remains, and that is different size cases sometimes fit for different size motherboards.
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Old 12-10-2013, 06:50 PM
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Im still going through the rest of that thread, is that information still up to date? Of the things on there what if anything should be upgraded?
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Old 12-10-2013, 08:41 PM
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Just playing around with their configuration setup, I went overbudget but I think I went overkill on most stuff. I really have no clue





Memory Express System Configurator

first try no clue

Product Name Qty Unit Price Price

need an operating system, have 8 on my laptop and hate it so 7, probably only need home premium.
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64 (64-bit) SP1 DVD - OEM ILC: FQC-04649 SKU: MX32998 1 $149.99 $149.99

first coolish case I found, far from set on it but like the squarish ones a bit more than the tower ones,
Cooler Master HAF XB Gamer Case, Black ILC: 884102019616 SKU: MX43201 1 $99.99 $99.99

Not sure what to pick here, is i7 worth it or is i5 fine
Intel Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache ILC: 735858260664 SKU: MX45429 1 $249.99 $249.99

not entirely sure what this is, something to do with memory. anybody want to give me a quick explenation?
Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 1600MHz SODIMM Kit (2 x 8GB) ILC: 843591016971 SKU: MX40825 1 $174.99 $174.99

motherboard, pretty clueless here as well.
Asus H87M-PLUS /CSM w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, HDMI, DVI, D-Sub ILC: 886227494354 SKU: MX45859 1 $119.99 $119.99

SSD probably not necissary, easy to cut for cost and can probably add later easily?
Corsair Force Series GS SATA III Solid State Drive, 240GB ILC: 843591023870 SKU: MX40382 1 $199.99 $199.99

traditional hard drive, again never built a computer not sure what to go with, 1 TB seems to be enough, I try to keep memory intensive stuff like movies on my portable hard drive and off my computers anyways.
Seagate 1TB Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD SATA III w/ 128MB Cache ILC: ST1000NM0033 SKU: MX44683 1 $119.99 $119.99

guessing I need some sort of dvd drive, probably not important what one.
Asus 24x DVD-RW Drive, SATA, OEM, Black ILC: 886227345618 SKU: MX45542 1 $19.99 $19.99

Graphics Card, again clueless, I think this one is overkill?
Asus GTX770 Direct CU II OC GeForce GTX 770 2GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort ILC: 886227514939 SKU: MX46322 1 $374.99 $374.99

do I need an sound card, I didn't see it mentioned in the how to build a comp. for iracing thread?
Asus Xonar DSX PCI-E 7.1 Audio Card ILC: 886227088270 SKU: MX40247 1 $64.99 $64.99

some random wireless adapter, not sure if a better one will help, we have weekish internet and I'm usually using ethernet.
D-Link Xtreme N Desktop PCI Adapter ILC: 790069298578 SKU: MX15587 1 $39.99 $39.99

I think this is overkill but didn't seem to be expensive so meh what do with this?
Corsair CS Series 750W Modular Power Supply ILC: 843591041386 SKU: MX49232 1 $109.99 $109.99




Sorry guys completely clueless and I pretty much have questions about every part.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:17 PM
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I'm looking into getting a budget gaming rig for iracing too so I'm very interested in hearing some opinions.

I'm pretty retarded when it comes to computers but I notice that your motherboard has 7.1 audio integrated so no need to add another audio card.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:46 PM
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I'd go with a USB DVD drive for how infrequently you need one. No sound card needed. If you can use a wired connection, I'd skip the wireless as well. Lag is the enemy when racing close.

The conventional hard drive might not be needed depending on what the computer is being used for.

Otherwise looks like a great system for iracing. If you are planning on triple screens, you may want to consider different video cards with more outputs. I also think 2GB video card is as low as you'd want to go.

My system is quite a bit older and runs fine at 127fps (capped) on most tracks rendering 3 screens separately. I'd also factor in a good wheel and pedal set into the cost of the build if you can afford it.
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Old 12-10-2013, 09:56 PM
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I'd go with a USB DVD drive for how infrequently you need one. No sound card needed. If you can use a wired connection, I'd skip the wireless as well. Lag is the enemy when racing close.

The conventional hard drive might not be needed depending on what the computer is being used for.

Otherwise looks like a great system for iracing. If you are planning on triple screens, you may want to consider different video cards with more outputs. I also think 2GB video card is as low as you'd want to go.

My system is quite a bit older and runs fine at 127fps (capped) on most tracks rendering 3 screens separately. I'd also factor in a good wheel and pedal set into the cost of the build if you can afford it.
Good call on the DVD drive, i can't remember the last time i used one, probably loading some old game. K sound card will be gone. Wireless i will keep, i don't have a good in wall Ethernet setup where i game so i have a long Ethernet cord that i run across a couple rooms. It would be nice to have internet when that's not setup.
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:33 PM
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Memory Express System Configurator

first try no clue

Product Name Qty Unit Price Price
Cooler Master HAF XB Gamer Case, Black ILC: 884102019616 SKU: MX43201 1 $99.99 $99.99

Still don't know what this does or if this is overkill
Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 1600MHz SODIMM Kit (2 x 8GB) ILC: 843591016971 SKU: MX40825 1 $174.99 $174.99

Asus H87M-PLUS /CSM w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, HDMI, DVI, D-Sub ILC: 886227494354 SKU: MX45859 1 $119.99 $119.99

I should be fine with just an SSD then? is this one more than I need? should I get a smaller SSD and get a regular hard drive to go with it?
Corsair Force Series GS SATA III Solid State Drive, 240GB ILC: 843591023870 SKU: MX40382 1 $199.99 $199.99

What would be a better graphics card. The next step up with Asus is a couple hundred dollar jump, what company should I look at, wheres the best bang for my buck?
Asus GTX770 Direct CU II OC GeForce GTX 770 2GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort ILC: 886227514939 SKU: MX46322 1 $374.99 $374.99

D-Link Xtreme N Desktop PCI Adapter ILC: 790069298578 SKU: MX15587 1 $39.99 $39.99

Is this power supply overkill?
Corsair CS Series 750W Modular Power Supply ILC: 843591041386 SKU: MX49232 1 $109.99 $109.99

what about this core? is this the way to go?
Intel Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache ILC: 735858260664 SKU: MX45429 1 $249.99 $249.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (64-bit) SP1 DVD - OEM ILC: GFC-02050 SKU: MX32996 1 $119.99 $119.99

Asus 8x DVDRW Slim External, Black ILC: 610839416844 SKU: MX40411 1 $39.99 $39.99

Shipping: $-.--
Sub Total: $1,529.90
GST 5% $76.50

Total Shipping Weight: 46.5 lbs.
Total:
$1,606.40




Still open to all suggestions and comments, Looking to spend money on the important parts not stuff I won't likely use.
Should I expect to need to buy a bunch of other smaller stuff as well like extra fans or assembly hardware and stuff?
Again all help is very appreciated.
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go with windows 7 professional or ultimate if you think you'll go over 16gb of ram with that system. Everything else looks A-OK to me, should be fast!
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Product Name Qty Unit Price Price

I still have to do some case research, this is still just one of the first ones I saw that looked cool
Cooler Master HAF XB Gamer Case, Black ILC: 884102019616 SKU: MX43201 1 $99.99 $99.99

Still don't know alot about motherboards and the differances or what you get for price differences, its on my list of needing to search
Asus H87M-PLUS /CSM w/ Dual DDR3 1600, 7.1 Audio, Gigabit Lan, HDMI, DVI, D-Sub ILC: 886227494354 SKU: MX45859 1 $119.99 $119.99

So I can have internet when not connected through a cable
D-Link Xtreme N Desktop PCI Adapter ILC: 790069298578 SKU: MX15587 1 $39.99 $39.99

not to sure in the differences, I understand modular means less cables but a little bit more money. 750W is probably overkill but It will give me lots of headroom, doesn't seem like I'm saving to much by going lower. Thats basically the extent of my understanding,
Corsair CS Series 750W Modular Power Supply ILC: 843591041386 SKU: MX49232 1 $109.99 $109.99

might be worth going for professional, but I only plan on 16gb of ram right now, as I understand it even that is overkill
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium x64 (64-bit) SP1 DVD - OEM ILC: GFC-02050 SKU: MX32996 1 $119.99 $119.99

for when I need to use disks etc
Asus 8x DVDRW Slim External, Black ILC: 610839416844 SKU: MX40411 1 $39.99 $39.99

I don't understand the differences between all the i5's but this one is the most expensive i5 on the list, I understand that an i7 is overkill.
Intel Core™ i5-4670K Processor, 3.40GHz w/ 6MB Cache ILC: 735858260664 SKU: MX45429 1 $249.99 $249.99

my 16gb of ram, should be more than enough
AMD Radeon Entertainment Series 16GB DDR3 1600 CL9 Dual Channel Kit (2x 8GB) ILC: 609713035929 SKU: MX49094 1 $159.99 $159.99

for hard drives, what I understand is I can use 60gb of my SSD as a cache to speed up my regular hard drive and the rest of my SSD for bootup and other important stuff. Not sure how any of this is done but I'll get to that later then, does all my hardeware etc support this?
Seagate 1TB Desktop HDD SATA III w/ 64MB Cache ILC: ST1000DM003 SKU: MX36523 1 $64.99 $64.99

Corsair Force Series GS SATA III Solid State Drive, 128GB ILC: 843591037068 SKU: MX43552 1 $119.99 $119.99

A healthy chunk of my build cost, pretty much alot of the reason I'm past my budget. Basically the top of the line from my research unless you want to step up to a gtx780 which is $. The gtx770 should be overkill for me. Should I aim for a lower one?
MSI N770 GAMING GeForce GTX 770 4GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort ILC: 816909109153 SKU: MX48434 1 $419.99 $419.99

A cheap aftermarket CPU cooler that someone recomended
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler ILC: 884102012921 SKU: MX36377 1 $34.99 $34.99

not sure if the cpu cooler comes with thermal compound or not, not clue wether I should use the 10$ 12$ etc compound?
Arctic Cooling MX-4 Premium Thermal Compound, 4g ILC: 872767003767 SKU: MX31051 1 $7.99 $7.99


Shipping: $-.--
Sub Total: $1,587.87
GST 5% $79.39

Total Shipping Weight: 48.5 lbs.
Total:
$1,667.26



Obviously I'm not very good at budgetting, I research something and then decide thats what I want and bam overbudget. Is there anything in my list that is overkill and I should cut out to save money?
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