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Old 01-09-2014, 07:27 PM
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I'm not sure how they are breaking even at that price point for the full course. We barely broke even with the PCA last year with the cheap insurance we can get with the club and the required ambulance. Maybe the prices have come down a bit.

I'm glad I'm not organizing any events next year. It's a lot of work and stress, so thanks everyone who does it.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:38 PM
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$150 for full course evening lapping? Are there less marshalls required to run a bike event, or is it reasonable to think some sort of revived Speedway event could operate near that price point?
Track Attacks have always turned a very healthy profit (opposite of Speedway) because they charge the same but have many, many more entrants.

They can run more bikes on track at any given time because:

1)there is no special equipment required (my opinion, if you own a sport bike, and don't own full equipment, you are dumb)
2) they require less space per each
3)it is a bigger market
4) it is run as a school
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:07 PM
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Track Attacks have always turned a very healthy profit (opposite of Speedway) because they charge the same but have many, many more entrants.

They can run more bikes on track at any given time because:

1)there is no special equipment required (my opinion, if you own a sport bike, and don't own full equipment, you are dumb)
2) they require less space per each
3)it is a bigger market
4) it is run as a school
Ahhh there's the answer. Thanks Chris.
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Old 01-09-2014, 10:18 PM
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Ahhh there's the answer. Thanks Chris.
So ... How do we apply that to getting more people out at TimeAttacks?

Castrol is bigger so more cars per session is possible ...

Speedway may operate under "school" insurance anyway (not unreasonable)

The cars are out there why aren't they running?
Available spots is part of it, but what else?

Safety equipment doesn't factor unless you consider the highest levels at TrackJunkies or WCMA TimeAttack

Profit ... Hmmm ... Tougher ... If Castrol can go ahead with wide open Wednesdays that may have the best chance of being profitable ... If it can combine with the drag strip then maybe some expenses can be shared. (With an ambulance perhaps a greater density of cars can be run?) and you are not stacking profit between two organizations

I think that Castrol wants to see it work (the road course in general) and the 'civilian' component of that is proven in other venues (motorcycles and drag racing) ... Maybe someone needs to pitch them on the idea that they need someone with experience to help run things *cough* Speedway *cough* ...
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:57 AM
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Well Matt and Co. didn't rule out a Speedway return, it's just for this 2014 season they're gonna take a break.

Sounds to me like they are probably planning to get up and going at Castrol in the future, but I'm sure there will need to be some discussion with Castrol on their part to get it to work, which is gonna naturally take time.
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Old 01-10-2014, 01:41 AM
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Well Matt and Co. didn't rule out a Speedway return, it's just for this 2014 season they're gonna take a break.

Sounds to me like they are probably planning to get up and going at Castrol in the future, but I'm sure there will need to be some discussion with Castrol on their part to get it to work, which is gonna naturally take time.
I guess that is what I am getting at ... There needs to be some dialog between Castrol, the various groups that might take part, and those with experience organizing events like this. For that matter ... See what is working at other tracks.

I can understand Castrol's, or any track's, desire to transfer risk (for profit and loss aswell as legal liability) by renting the track rather than organizing events. The wait and see attitude may work out best for everyone. If there are a lot of open dates then negotiating becomes more relivant for both sides.

If there are a lot of empty (mid week) dates by mid summer, then it may be a reality to run a couple events this year, at a discount rental, as a proof of concept sort of thing.

I am not holding my breath but it is a possibility worth considering.
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Old 01-10-2014, 05:19 PM
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$150 for full course evening lapping? Are there less marshalls required to run a bike event, or is it reasonable to think some sort of revived Speedway event could operate near that price point?
Cool! Maybe I'll take the gas-saver CBR-125 out once this year too!

I will unleash all 125 cc's of FURY! >:O
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:15 AM
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Cool! Maybe I'll take the gas-saver CBR-125 out once this year too!

I will unleash all 125 cc's of FURY! >:O
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Heading to Miller Motorsports this weekend for the first NASA race of the season, should be fun although I usually scare the crap out of myself the first session after being away from the track all winter.

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Old 03-21-2014, 03:10 AM
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Looks great Russ! Have fun down there, make sure to come back with pics and video!
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